Inner Healing: Inviting Jesus Into Your Story ~ Nanci Lamborn Ep.154

Author and chaplain Nanci Lamborn's book Angry Daughter is a powerful testimony of God’s redeeming work in the deepest places of pain. In this episode, Nanci shares about inner healing, what it means to invite Jesus into the most hidden parts of our story, and allow His love to transform shame, grief, and fear into wholeness and peace.

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Denisha: [00:00:00] It is such a joy to have back to our podcast. If you missed two weeks ago, our last episode with Nanci Lamborne, you've got to jump on and listen to that as she shares her story of healing and today we're gonna unpack a little more about, that healing process that Nanci went through. You guys. She is a minister, an author, and a speaker, and Nanci helps others, exchange lies for truth, bondage for freedom, and anger.

For joy through biblically based healing prayer, and that's what we're gonna talk about today. Nanci is a survivor of childhood trauma and her life was radically changed after a healing encounter with Christ and since 2016, she has guided, get this. Over 2000 inner healing clients as an ordained minister and licensed chaplain.

Her first book, which we talked about in the last episode, angry Daughter was given a notable book award. She was a finalist at the Southern Christian Writers Conference, and now she re leased her [00:01:00] debut novel, crazy. Has a name and the Shift, a 30 day Heart Healing devotional. So today, Nanc I'm so excited to have you back on the podcast.

And last time we talked a lot about your story and how you arrived to where you are now. Yeah. You experienced this radical encounter with Christ where you found your own healing, and then the Lord said, quit your corporate job and go into full-time ministry. Yeah. And that's what we're gonna talk about today.

So yeah. Start us with that. and maybe even backing up a little bit in case someone missed the last episode. 

Nanci: Yeah. So before 2016, I'd never heard of the word inner healing and I would've thought it was some sort of woo woo, new age thing because I just wasn't around that. Right. Um. There's a, an author named Mark ler, and he describes inner healing as looking at the photos down the galley of your past and finding the photos where Jesus isn't in them and getting Jesus [00:02:00] in them.

Mm. It's as simple as that. And I love that picture because once Jesus gets in the photo, the photo is healed no matter what it was. Right. so my journey, I was an angry person. I had actually come out of domestic violence and I'd lived for about eight years in pretty rough domestic violence with my children from a previous marriage.

And I ended up having to escape from that with what I could carry on my back and escape with my children. Literally went underground and like started over, uh, is pretty wild. That season of healing. I went to the first therapist ever in my life. I was in my late thirties, I think, at that point. and that therapist took me back to the childhood trauma that I experienced, and I was not expecting to go there.

I thought I needed therapy for this domestic violence marriage, but people don't choose domestic violence abusers who [00:03:00] haven't already been abused. That's just the way that Satan works it, right? And so that was the first step toward any healing of any kind, was an unbelievable, amazing, therapist who taught me for the first time how to love myself biblically through the Lord in a healthy way.

and I met my amazing godly husband who, God just. Handpicked for me and we got married. I still am an angry person, cussing like a sailor. I'm throwing dishes when I get mad. He hasn't seen that part, by the way. So it's funny, he doesn't even remember this three days after we got married. He came home from work and I was in a knockdown, drag out fight with my 13-year-old daughter.

And like I was taught the environment, was participating in the fight. You know, I'm throwing dishes and kicking walls and slamming cabinet doors. And then my husband walks in the house and he looks around and he realizes what's going. And he says, you know, that's not how this [00:04:00] house is gonna go. We are gonna get on our knees right now and we are gonna invite the Holy Spirit into this house.

And I was like, oh. Okay. And he was stepping into his authority as the spiritual head of the home. And he was not raised in this and he was not about to normalize this. He never shamed me, never judged me. We literally got on our knees in the hallway and holy peace just fell into this home and it has never left.

And we have been married for over 20 years. Wow. It was fundamentally changed my concept of what's okay when you are disagreeing in the house? Like he was just like, you know, no, but again, he never attacked me, judged me, shamed me. we did the church thing. a lot of involvement serving busy, busy, busy.

Raising teenagers. Then we transitioned, to a non-denominational church and they had a prayer room. Oh wow. That's weird. Never heard of a [00:05:00] prayer room before. These people were kinda woo woo. And those people in the prayer room, wow. They're like up on the mountaintop all the time. I could never be like those people.

They're really amazing. so. We joined a small group, of people who were way freer than we are. We were, and I didn't know what that meant. just learn more about the Lord. And during the season, my husband had begun praying for me that the Lord would just radically show me my destiny, give me what I needed, whatever the Lord had for me, give her the more Lord, whatever it is.

So as we joined this new small group, there was a lady there named Lucy, my mentor, and she shared that she prayed for people in her home. And I thought that was the weirdest thing I'd ever heard. And I began to understand as she mentored me and coached me and then walked me through my own inner healing session with her.

That's what it was. She sat down with me and she spent, we were together that first time, probably two and a half hours, and we talked about [00:06:00] everything related to my mother wound, the traumas that I went through, my, perceptions of my mom, the way she deeply wounded me, and, and how much anger and bitterness, all the things, you know, and Lucy's just writing all these notes down and through this beautiful process that did not feel hard, feel emotional, but not difficult to forgive my mom.

And to get Jesus into these places of trauma and. When I was young, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was one of my favorite movies. And the little girl in the movie Jemima Pots, she's the daughter of, professor Pots Dick Van Dyke character, and I always thought she was the most beautiful little girl I'd ever seen in my life.

I just like, I always wanted to be her, and I always felt like a very ugly child. When you're being abused all the time, you're gonna feel ugly. you know that, what you see as yourself as. And this picture, I got a picture in my mind the first time [00:07:00] ever I'd seen a picture in my head with Jesus and I looked like Jemima pots in my head.

And I was like, okay, only Jesus would know that this is actually what I considered beauty. And he was wiping my face off 'cause I was dirty and it was very sweet and loving and tender and just like melted parts of me that I didn't know needed to melt, right? Mm-hmm. And this is really funny. In that picture, Jesus was sitting next to me on a picnic table and he held up a book that I was going to write at some point in the future.

And I was like, okay, alright. What I mean, I'd never written a book before, hadn't planned. I was in my corporate human resources job, loved it, doing well, all that. And I thought that would be there till I retired. So once I realized this, just the freedom from this first forgiveness and inner healing time, and how it radically shifted my perception of my mom and it changed my heart.

I just [00:08:00] began to go back to Lucy. I'm like, I want everything. I want all of this, whatever it is. So. She met with me several more times, but she also had this beautiful library that was full of teaching videos, books, case set tapes, all that of pioneers of the inner healing movement, like the Sanfords and Restoring the Foundation and original Bethel Sozo and all these things.

And she just gifted all. She said, you can have whatever you want or just bring it back. And so I began to immerse in all things in her healing and. The ladies in the prayer room became less woo woo and more like, oh, I see what they're doing now. You know? and. Several months later, Lucy shared, Hey, there's this, inner healing lady that's got her own ministry.

She's coming to town. You're gonna definitely wanna come to this workshop. So this lady's name is Monty Bromley, and she's the founder of a ministry called Beth Shalom. And Beth Shalom is Hebrew, and the phrase means a house where nothing is missing, nothing is broken, and there's an [00:09:00]absence of chaos. All right, beautiful.

And she had founded this ministry 30 some years ago with the Lord taking her on her own journey of forgiveness and freedom and whatnot. And the thing that kind of catapulted me forward is Monty stood up there and talked about. The people that had sat in front of her and the things that they had been freed of, you know, she had seen deaf ears open in front of her.

She had seen, you know, skin diseases clear up right in front of her. She had, miracle After Miracle Physical Miracles that came as a direct result of inner healing because the Bible links them in many cases. And I literally, I sat on the front row with my jaw on the ground in front of this teacher for three days.

Never heard anyone talk about the Bible the way she talked about it. And so it took the fire that Lucy had started within me and literally just exploded it and. After that conference, it was [00:10:00] almost like my bible changed overnight. I open and I'm like, that wasn't in there before. That's not what that said before.

And I just literally, like scales had fallen off my eyes and I just became hungry for the word of God and for more of, of all of this world of setting people free and. As I began to listen to more of Monty Bromley and the other things that Lucy had shared with me, the Lord began to say, well, you know, you could actually pray with someone the way Lucy does.

And I was like, I'll think about it, you know? And then I would listen to more, and then I'd be like, you know, I mean, maybe I could see myself doing. And so words you used was weird. Yeah. What I thought was, you know, that's good for you. and I really thought those people were like, you know, it's like celebrators are always set apart.

Like, ooh, you know, that's how I saw the people that did that was just apart. Right. And, you know, I could never, that's such a wide gap between you and me. Like, I can never [00:11:00] fill that. And you're something special. And, um, I had this experience, a couple things. First of all, mind you, I'm still not loving people very well.

My language is getting better, but I'm still annoyed and I, uh, very offended in my heart all the time and word cursing people in my heart all the time. So, in one day with Lucy, the Lord began to gently, lovingly convict me that I didn't love people well. And I didn't know what to do with that. And in a, just a passing conversation with Lucy, we prayed about something else.

I'm literally my hand's on the doorknob and I'm leaving her house. And I said, you know, it's really started to bother me that I don't like people very much. That's all I said. And she was like, you know, I'll pray for you about that, or whatever. I mean, literally that was the only conversation. So a couple days later, my husband and I were camping up in the North Georgia Mountains and

we're driving home from the, it was, we just read our Bibles all weekend and listened to worship and it was great. We're [00:12:00] driving home from this camping trip and it's very backwards hill, you know, Appalachia, so there's Shaq after Shaq, after Shaq that we're driving by and I have this open vision and the Lord literally peeled away the curtain of heaven.

And he gave me his eyes to see the people in these houses. And what I saw. Ripped my heart to shreds. These people were in their homes on their knees, begging God to send someone to help them get free. And they didn't know how. They're believers, they knew the Lord, and they're in bondage and they're crying out, can't you send someone to help me get free?

And I was beyond wrecked. I'm like sobbing, snot, and crying everywhere. I'm like, tell my husband, like, you gotta pull over. And I just have this moment with the Lord. John Ramirez calls it being baptized in holy anguish. I was radically baptized in holy anguish. And. I gained a [00:13:00]supernatural pity, love, compassion for all of humanity in that moment that I didn't even ask the Lord for it.

I just acknowledged that I didn't have it, and he knew I was ready for it. And so that happened. Wow. And several weeks later, my husband and I were on vacation down in Fort Walton Beach and we drive by this, parking lot, and they're having like. Cookout. Just community. Hey, come get a free hot dog. And it was a church.

We're like, oh, there's a church. Like let's go there tomorrow. 'cause we were gonna be there over Sunday. So we look it up online and we find an address. All they have is a Facebook page. That's it. And we get the address. So we drive there the next morning and it's the city park, and we get out of the car and it's a church for the homeless.

Now mind you, up until this point, homeless people put themselves in that position and you know, you don't deserve my dollar because you did this. Like my judgment was off the chain. [00:14:00] I put my foot on the ground and I heard the Lord say, this is my church and this is beautiful. And I was like, okay, this is great.

You know, I'm excited and realizing like, oh, I don't, I'm not judging these people. This is, and all these homeless people just coming out of everywhere to this city park where this church has set up this huge food buffet and they're playing Christian music really loud. And there's this ministry that ministers to the homeless there and.

I fell the Lord tapping me like this in the spirit. And he's like, see that girl over there with the Christmas pants on? You're gonna go pray for her? And I was like, all right, let's do this. I'm, I'm okay. I don't know. I'll do what? Whatever. I'll do what you tell me to do. She's like 26. She's homeless.

Obviously she's struggled with an addiction issue. So I ask her, can I pray for you? So we go sit on the grass and the Lord starts downloading. Just all of this information about her that I could not have known naturally. I'm reading her mail. I'm [00:15:00] using the prayer tools that I'd picked up through all of this training.

She's getting absolutely wrecked. She's laying stuff down. She's repenting, she's forgetting, she's renouncing. I'm getting wrecked because I'm like, oh my gosh, what is happening? You know? And at the end she got a picture of a clean slate that Jesus had erased the board and she was free to start over. And I knew in that moment this was what I was put on this planet to do.

I knew it in my heart and I still hadn't planned to leave corporate America because I earned a lot of money, you know? And like we were dual income. We had one in college already, and no, we had one married with a child already. Yeah. So I was already a grandmother at this point, young baby and the other one going to start college.

And I was really successful with what I was doing. I loved my job. They loved me. They treated me really well, but the Lord started giving me dreams and very clearly like, yeah, you're, you're gonna quit your job and you're gonna do this full time. And I'm like, [00:16:00] well, you gotta tell my husband, 'cause you know, I've gotta have his blessing and he's gotta recognize like, we've got financial decisions to make blah, blah, blah.

And so the Lord gave him dreams without even me saying anything. I love this. I know. And, and we like, we both knew like. Yeah, this is what you're being called to do. And uh, so the January 1st of that, I think it's 2017, I walked into my office, told them like, I'm being called into this. I'm gonna go set people free.

They gave me seed money to start ministry. Blessed me, um. Let me ease out slowly. And then by that April, I was fully ordained under Beth Shalom, under Monty Bromley. And I had my first client that day. I had had a random, went to Passion City Church with some friends. They're like, well, what's going on in your life?

And I'm like, well, let me tell you, and I'm doing this and I'm doing this and there's four [00:17:00]women in the car. And they're all like, well, I want that, I want that. Me two signed me up. So I had four appointments back to back, and. I've been full-time ever since. I've got a four or five month wait to get in.

I've never once advertised, and it's been however it was 20, 17, 8, 9 years, whatever, long time. And over 2000 clients. Yeah, yeah. And what's beautiful is, you know, we went from two incomes to one instantly and we were okay, but like that same year. The porch collapsed on my front. Uh, the front of the house had to have the cabinets replaced 'cause there was a leak, had needed a new roof.

Like all this stuff happened in one year. Of course it did. Of, of course it did, right. but then, like September of that year, the company that I had been working for, they got bought out by, by nasdaq and the stock options that I had been gifted while I was there, all got paid out. The Lord was like, here you go.

Like I told you, I was gonna [00:18:00] take care of this and set. I mean, couldn't ask for anything more perfect. You know? So we were obedient and it's been unbelievable. The things I've seen, the people I've seen get set free, the, the babies that have come from dead wounds, like I just can't, I could talk for hours about the amazing things the Lord has done.

Denisha: There's nothing like that. 

Nanci: Oh, there's not. There's nothing like it. I tell people I don't really need to see a lot of movies 'cause I see the greatest show on Earth every day in, in this room. Sitting on this couch. Yeah. Yeah. 

Denisha: And it's not about techniques, is it? It really is. No, 

Nanci: no. It's about obedience, it's submission and obedience.

I do have a technique, a structured process that I use, which is. Sort of unique to the Beth Shalom ministry. It's very structured, but in that structure, there's all kinds of unstructured, if that makes sense. 

Denisha: Well, and it sounds like you can't arrive [00:19:00] at that freedom without the person encountering Jesus in, oh, you said walking down the, you know, the, the family gallery of pictures in the hallway and saying, where isn't he?

So it's an encounter with Jesus. Yeah. That you're leading them into, and then he's giving 'em the pictures. the, 

Nanci: he's the one talking to them. I'm not the one talking to them. They hear that's, that's incredible. Oh yeah. And watching someone hear the voice of the Lord for themselves the first time never gets old.

Denisha: Yeah. Oh wow. Wow. As you do this, what are, you know, it's 2025 right now. Um, what are some of the things, you know, here we are five years post COVID, we're in this time of, technology overload in so many ways, depending on the generations. I think you and I came from the generation, you know, as you, as you mentioned, that you know, you're to be seen and not heard.

And we shove everything under the rug. Yeah. Um, that was me too. I actually remember being [00:20:00] constantly told, you are to be seen and not heard. It wasn't even just a vibe. It was like Word. Yeah. Yep. And even to this day. Okay, I'm 49 now. Even to this day, I have a hard time with my voice. Yep. And it's interesting because that's what God's called me to do is to speak.

And so isn't it funny that something from your childhood, you're to be seen and not heard? Yep. Then you wrestle with this robbing of your voice. So you see this in a hundred stories. Like you said, we could talk all day about the different stories you've had. Yeah. what are you seeing the most of in 2025?

And I know we all come from different cultures and backgrounds, but is there a thing you seeing? 

Nanci: anxiety's massive. Right. people are conceived in anxiety. They come out of the womb already steeped in anxiety. They see anxiety. Parents are fear-based. Parenting and anxiety has become normalized. We've dressed it up.

We've given it pretty names. We've elevated it like it's acceptable to society. There's a lot of [00:21:00]anxiety. there's a ton as you know, a ton of trauma. I mean, If I didn't have the Lord to wipe me clean at the end of each session, I would not be able to handle the amount of trauma that I hear about on a daily basis. Right. but nothing is too hard for the Lord and it's not mine to carry.

Right. I don't carry it. I actually take a spiritual bath when I'm finished, so I don't even remember what people share with me most of the time. Yeah, right. Yeah. Um, but tons of trauma and the thing that I'm most passionate about with inner healing is identity what is the identity that God wrote about you that Satan has tried to steal?

You used the term voicelessness, or you didn't say that word, but your voice has been stolen because you were told to be seen and not heard. Okay? Mm-hmm. That is an identity or a spirit of voicelessness. When we can get free of wounds, lies, traumas, uh, all that stuff, we can actually walk in the destiny that we were meant to walk in, and so.

Part of the journey I actually [00:22:00] require for someone to come see me, they have to, um, read a book, it's Victory of the Darkness by Neil Anderson. Yes. And they have to take all 10 videos of the freedom in Christ, content before they walk in my door because I want them set up to be ready for success.

And one of the most beautiful things about that content is about identity. The identity of being a firstborn son of God, not a popper begging, you know, like a hat in hand with a crust, begging for a crust of bread radically changes how we love ourselves, how we see ourselves in the kingdom, what we allow, what we don't allow.

Like it's radical. Yeah. So I love. Educating people and exposing them to the concept of identity, and helping them break all the stuff that has kept them from that so they can actually step into it. 

Denisha: Oh, there's so much freedom in that, and like you said, dismantling the lies too, that they believed in.

Replacing that with the truth [00:23:00] of what does Jesus say about you? 

Nanci: Absolutely. 

Denisha: So what if someone was listening, Nanci, and they're thinking, no, my pain is too deep, or I'm too old. What encouragement would you wanna give them today? 

Nanci: Well, the encouragement first of all is in Psalms. It says, what matters to you matters to the Lord, and your pain matters to the Lord.

I also would encourage people to think about, Jesus said, if a. Child asks his father for bread, is he gonna give him a stone? If he asks for meat, is he gonna give him a serpent? How much more than will the heavenly Father give you what you ask for? And so if we realize, and, and many of us have horrible examples of our earthly fathers, so the concept of our godly father has been tainted, destroyed, perverted, all the things.

But if we can. Set that aside and recognized [00:24:00] No wait. Jesus told the truth and the God he described looks just like Jesus. He's like, if you've seen me, you've seen the Father so recognizing that if what Jesus said is true, then my father wants to give me good things. Simply being willing to take one little thing to the Lord.

that's one of the reasons I wrote the shift the way that I wrote it, is that it's one issue at a time that, you know, say someone's just carried shame for years and years and years, and they've never told a soul why they're in shame and they just feel like they're gonna carry it to their grave, but.

That's not going to help me walk in my identity, right? I can't walk in total freedom if I'm, if my head's always down and I'm looking inward and I'm feeling like garbage, that's not abundant. Life is that emotion of shame in heaven. No, it's not. Was it in the garden of Ian before the fall? No, it's not. So why do we tolerate now on earth what God never intended for mankind to experience?

Why do we do that? [00:25:00] So taking one little thing to the Lord, and like you said, what do you think about this? What do I believe about? This is one of the most powerful questions anyone can ever ask. What do I believe about not wanting to speak what is true in a room of people that are all speaking falsehood?

What do I believe about, being deserving of honor? What do I believe about forgiving myself for the choice I made when I was 17? What do I believe about this when I'm willing to ask that question humbly and I'm willing to listen? The Lord will tell me, you know, you believe this is unforgivable because that's what you heard from your religious grandmother.

You believe that it's all your fault because that's what you heard from your abuser. And the Lord will show us when we ask him, we wait a minute. I have believed this my whole life, that it was my fault. Oh my gosh. Jesus is telling me that's a lie. I don't have to believe this anymore. Just that one little tweak can literally cause many, many pounds of baggage to, to fall away.[00:26:00]

Right. And being willing to ask like, what is possible if I'm not carrying? What might life look like if I don't carry this stuff? Being willing to go there can spark a glimmer of hope that, oh wait, there is actually more available than one I'm walking in. 

Denisha: Yeah. Oh, that's so good. There's so much more available.

I know when you dive into this stuff. Oh, Nanci, there's, we could just cover so many topics and I know you said in your book you talk about grief and shame and all these different topical mm-hmm. Subjects as you walk through your story. And then you also have a prayer at the end of each chapter.

Nanci: Mm-hmm.

Denisha: Love this. How thorough, how thorough was the Lord in putting this book together for you? Right. And we're surprised, but how can we find, angry Daughter this shift, and also your novel. Yeah. Tell us how to make you and how to find those resources. 'cause we're gonna want more. Yeah. 

Nanci: So my website is, uh, lamb Born Author dot Inc.

And that's Ink like Inc. From [00:27:00] A Pen, lamb born author Do Inc. They're all available on Amazon, angry Daughter and Crazy. Has a name are on Audible now, also in Kendall as well. the Shift Devotional is being recorded for Audible, so that'll be on later this year. so that's where they can find me.

My Instagram handle is Lamb born author, and my Facebook page is Lamborne author, so you can find me in all those places. 

Denisha: Awesome, and we'll have all that in the show notes. We'll be posting about your book over the next couple of weeks. This is gonna be great. Thank you for being a resource for not only the body of Christ, but also for people who have yet to encounter him, because we all have the same issues, right?

Yep. We do. We have Jesus, or when you have the opportunity to lead someone to Jesus in either a, first way or a fresh way. What a powerful ministry you have. Amen. 

Nanci: Oh, 

Denisha: thank you so much for joining us and for Oh, thank 

Nanci: you. It's been my honor. This has been so fun. 

Denisha: Oh, it has been. It has been. So thank you for the deep reminder of how much Jesus cares [00:28:00] about every part of our story.

So thank you so much, Nanci.