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[00:00:00] Denisha: Welcome to 2024. As we start a new year, what a [00:00:05] great time to reflect on where we've come from. This month, we are [00:00:10] celebrating our fifth year anniversary as a ministry and much like life with [00:00:15] God, running a ministry is an adventure. Today, you will meet each of our [00:00:20] team members as they discuss how they came to this ministry, what they do to serve, and [00:00:25] their hearts for those on a healing journey.
We hope that as you hear from our team, that [00:00:30] you will be personally encouraged. And as you become more familiar with how Reclaim [00:00:35] Story serves women, that you will think of us for your own healing journey and those [00:00:40] in your life. We are here for you. And that is what gets us up in the [00:00:45] morning. We want to invite you to become a partner with Reclaimed Story.
Go [00:00:50] to reclaimedstory. com and click on donate. This [00:00:55] ministry is possible because people just like you give. We are so grateful for your [00:01:00] support to kick off this episode. We will return to [00:01:05] 2017 when the Lord began profoundly reclaiming my story, [00:01:10] even when I fought him, welcome to living the reclaim life [00:01:15] podcast.
I'm Denisha. We're glad you're here for conversations that revive hope, [00:01:20] inspire healing, and encourage you to live a vibrant life with Christ. So [00:01:25] grab a cup of coffee as we chat with today's guest. [00:01:30] It is hard to believe that Reclaim Story has been officially serving women for [00:01:35] five years. This is our fifth year anniversary.
[00:01:40] This month's episodes are going to be very intriguing as we walk down memory lane [00:01:45] with each of our team members, many of which are behind the scenes. [00:01:50] We are going to each share openly about the victories and the defeats along the [00:01:55] way as God has developed and grown this ministry. And we hope that you walk [00:02:00] away from these two episodes with encouragement of what God can do in your [00:02:05] life when you say yes to his adventures.
In this episode, I get to [00:02:10] introduce you to Alicia and Nancy, and I think we're going to have some laughs together. [00:02:15] In case you're new to us, my name is Denisha and I'm the founder of Reclaim Story. [00:02:20] And this podcast that you're listening to, Living the Reclaim Life, is a ministry of [00:02:25] Reclaim Story. To give you a little bit about my background, I was in the jewelry industry [00:02:30] for 20 years.
And then I was a pastor at a large church. So at this [00:02:35] point of our fifth year anniversary, I've been in ministry for 14 years. So there's [00:02:40] pretty much two things I've got, and that is jewelry and Jesus. And that's what I have for you, friends. [00:02:45] I'm going to take you back to 2017. [00:02:50] And that is when God began to heal my personal story and plant the idea [00:02:55] of starting a ministry to help other women heal.
See, I was at a women's [00:03:00] conference in Las Vegas and I had 19 women from our staff with me. [00:03:05] We were staying at an Airbnb out in the suburbs. Now, [00:03:10] in my adult life, I'd been to Vegas a few times, but I had always stayed closer to the Strip. [00:03:15] This was the first time that I was out in the suburbs. As we left our [00:03:20] Airbnb, many of us crammed in a car, we got on the highway and I sat in the back [00:03:25] seat and all of a sudden I saw it.
A huge [00:03:30] hotel that towered above a triangle shaped parking lot. Out of [00:03:35] nowhere, my breath became shallow. My heart was racing. I remember that fear [00:03:40] overtook my entire being and my legs and my hands went numb. I [00:03:45] gripped that door handle and all I could think of in that moment was I needed to get out of this [00:03:50] car.
It didn't even matter that we were moving on the freeway. Now you might think, [00:03:55] Denisha, why did a triangle shaped parking lot have this effect on you? I was [00:04:00] asking the same thing. But what I realized was the first time that I saw that [00:04:05] triangle shaped parking lot, I was 16 years old and a family friend [00:04:10] took me on a trip to Vegas.
And I remember we checked into the hotel, we went up the [00:04:15] elevator and we walked into the hotel room and there were white curtains floor to [00:04:20] ceiling. There was multicolored art that was spaced evenly on the walls. [00:04:25] And then I saw one king size bed. And I remember this jolt of [00:04:30] fear that was coming over me because I was not prepared for this.
I was looking for a [00:04:35] door. There has to be another room, a hidden door that separates two rooms, but [00:04:40] there wasn't. And I was 230 miles away from home. I was [00:04:45] 16 years old and suddenly our trusted friend seemed to have made a convenient [00:04:50] mistake when he scheduled this trip. Now fast forward [00:04:55] 25 years later to 2017.
Just a couple of blocks [00:05:00] from our Airbnb, there it was. That tall building with windows that [00:05:05] overlooked that triangle shaped parking lot. I was so surprised by the [00:05:10] vivid memories that flooded my mind. The details, the flashbacks, the anger, [00:05:15] and the shame. Although the conference was terrific, I remember the whole time [00:05:20] wrestling with these thoughts and feeling desperately like I wanted them to go away.
It had been [00:05:25] 25 years. And all I wanted to do was pick up the proverbial rug of my [00:05:30] life and continue to shove those memories under that rug for another 25 years. [00:05:35]You see, God's love for us is too great to allow us to ignore [00:05:40] something that he has a power to heal. During one of those times of [00:05:45] worship, I remember a thought popping in my head that was so clear [00:05:50] and it was, I'm going to reclaim your body in the first place.
It was stolen. [00:05:55] I remember sobbing violently during worship and pretty much through every [00:06:00] session, through the two day conference, you see, I couldn't run from it. [00:06:05] I had been concealing my pain for 25 years, but God was kind [00:06:10] enough to reveal it in order to heal it. And he was working on my heart [00:06:15] only the way that he could.
That word reclaim [00:06:20] means to rescue from an undesirable state and to restore to a [00:06:25]previous natural state. For me, this conference was all about God [00:06:30] rescuing and restoring me. That place that was once a source of [00:06:35] pain became a milestone of change for me. I was able to proclaim the [00:06:40] healing power of Jesus over that part of my story.
And I couldn't shake that [00:06:45] word reclaim during the whole conference. I knew that God was definitely speaking [00:06:50] to me about reclaiming my personal story. But I also [00:06:55] had a nudge that he was going to teach me how to help others to heal from their story as [00:07:00] well. Well, from 2017 at that conference to [00:07:05] 2019, I remember sitting down with my husband and bravely going into [00:07:10] GoDaddy and buying www.
reclaimstory. com for 20. [00:07:15] And I also remember. Two years of healing [00:07:20] and wrestling with God, me trying to shove things under the rug, and his [00:07:25] goodness and grace and love kept inviting me to pick it up and explore these parts of my [00:07:30] story. And I am so thankful that I did. Never could I have imagined what [00:07:35] God was going to do over the next five years that leads us to today.[00:07:40]
The first person I told about this crazy God sized dream to start a ministry was [00:07:45] my husband and the second was my friend Alicia. Yay
[00:07:49] Alicia: [00:07:50] me.
[00:07:51] Denisha: You guys, Alicia and I have so much fun together [00:07:55] and this is how this ministry started. The two of us in a room together. [00:08:00] Yeah.
[00:08:01] Alicia: It all went downhill from there. [00:08:05]
[00:08:05] Denisha: Okay. So Alicia, we were just talking before we hit record and we were trying to remember all of the [00:08:10] things that happened prior to actually launching this ministry.
[00:08:15] Alicia, what do you remember?
[00:08:16] Alicia: Well, I have a bad memory, but what I can [00:08:20] remember is just all of our conversations on multiple occasions, just feels like over [00:08:25] a course of many years, we were both in ministry. I have a background in. [00:08:30] Children's Ministry and, um, Behavioral Health and worked at Gospel Rescue Mission [00:08:35] and Women and Children Recovery, Outpatient Behavioral Health, and then Adolescent [00:08:40] Recovery.
And you were in ministry and we just kept seeing the need [00:08:45] for speaking into people's lives and the hurts that they were experiencing and the [00:08:50] deeper roots of what led to the broken areas in their life. And I know that [00:08:55] we both had those conversations about. What was needed to help [00:09:00] these people that were crossing our paths
[00:09:01] Denisha: and we couldn't seem to find what we [00:09:05] thought was needed.
We couldn't seem to find that out there anywhere. I do remember that. I [00:09:10] remember many times sitting over coffee with our computers, trying to study [00:09:15] different passages, work on different blogs together way before we actually [00:09:20] ever hit publish. And our original intention was just a blog. [00:09:25] Yeah. And what happened when I began talking about [00:09:30] more than a blog?
What did you bring with you to our meetings?
[00:09:33] Alicia: I think I asked for a paper bag [00:09:35] to hyperventilate into. At first it was like, Hey, let's put this into a blog. And I was like, [00:09:40] let's not. And then we did. And even before it went live. [00:09:45] And then that night when we hit publish and it went live was. [00:09:50] So amazing that it all come together and what God was going to do with it was [00:09:55] terrifying but exciting to look back on now.
Not so much in the moment,
[00:09:59] Denisha: but. I [00:10:00] should have brought you a paper bag today as we're recording this, our fifth year anniversary. It's been five years. [00:10:05] Five years and
[00:10:05] Alicia: many gray hairs later.
[00:10:08] Denisha: Since we sat down [00:10:10] together, oh my goodness. I remember it was January 11th, [00:10:15] 2019, and it was 11, 11 p. m., which is way past your bedtime normally.
Oh, yeah. [00:10:20] Way
[00:10:20] Alicia: past. I don't know why I was out so late. You're a bad influence on me. [00:10:25]
[00:10:25] Denisha: We were sitting at my dining room table. I think we had like maybe five or six blogs done, [00:10:30] and we were getting ready to hit the publish button. And our hope [00:10:35]was, like you said, like that women would. Find hope and healing through that [00:10:40] if you can remember back.
I know it's been five years, but if you can remember back What were you most? [00:10:45] Hoping for when we launched the blog.
[00:10:47] Alicia: I think that people would find hope I [00:10:50] think hopelessness is just something that we encounter in ministry helping hurting people [00:10:55] and being able to Um, offer them something where you're like, I keep having this [00:11:00] conversation with people.
People need to hear about how the gospel affects the everyday [00:11:05] stuff of their life. The hope of Jesus, that God is not angry at them or [00:11:10] causing bad things to happen to them. The truths of their identity in Christ, shifting their perspective or [00:11:15] their beliefs. And I wanted us to be able to put all of that into words [00:11:20] and that may be someone to scroll across that.
online or someone would send it [00:11:25] to, you know, their friend or something, and they would find that hope in the message that got it put on [00:11:30] our hearts to share.
[00:11:31] Denisha: We picked January 11th, 2019 at [00:11:35] 11, 11 PM, because we were claiming the promises of Deuteronomy 1, [00:11:40] 11, which says, may the Lord, the God of your ancestors, increase you a [00:11:45] thousand times and bless you as he has promised.
We were hoping that God [00:11:50] would just bless this desire of our heart to help women find healing. [00:11:55] Yeah. It's
[00:11:55] Alicia: amazing thinking back to those conversations that led to that [00:12:00] night, all of the. Giggles and laughter and we'd get off topic and everything, but it was just [00:12:05] so spirit led of everything that we're like, no, there's something here.
And we [00:12:10] always knew that we were gonna do something together and not just because our names go together. Well, we were [00:12:15] always Denise and Alicia, but because of what God had put on us to do, and he's been [00:12:20] so faithful to cause it to happen and then
[00:12:22] Denisha: make it grow. Yeah, no [00:12:25] kidding. I remember one of my favorite Christmas gifts.
You have the best like gifting. We [00:12:30] find like the coolest gifts. And I remember the one year that you gave me a Gumby. And I [00:12:35] thought that is exactly what we feel like God is doing with us, like stretching us far beyond our [00:12:40] capacity. That's for sure. But in him. We were able to stretch and be [00:12:45] flexible and do scary things and be vulnerable in blogs that we were [00:12:50] convinced the minute we hit publish, the whole world would like know our tea.
And it didn't [00:12:55] exactly happen that way, but God has definitely used our stories and writing [00:13:00] to lead women closer to him.
[00:13:02] Alicia: Yeah. That stretching is not fun in the [00:13:05] moment, but looking back, you're like, look at
[00:13:08] Denisha: Yeah, it's been pretty amazing. [00:13:10] Yeah. I also remember us hitting publish and then I [00:13:15] remember praying for several days and weeks, Lord, what are we going to stand [00:13:20] for?
And I knew God had given us John 10, 10. We were kind of holding onto that where the [00:13:25]enemy had come to kill, steal and destroy. But Jesus had come that we would have life and life [00:13:30] abundantly. And as we were holding onto that. I remember thinking there's something [00:13:35] else. And 16 days after we launched this ministry, God [00:13:40] revealed another part of my story, which that led us in our very [00:13:45] first year of, by the way, only running a blog led us to, but God [00:13:50] led us to helping to launch a local resource center for pregnant moms with another [00:13:55] friend of ours.
Do you remember the night that? Mara called us [00:14:00] together at her dining room table. She didn't know that I had just found out part of my [00:14:05] story. She didn't know that you and I would just launch this thing together. And do [00:14:10] you remember what she said that night?
[00:14:11] Alicia: Not
[00:14:12] Denisha: specifically, no. She shared her story with [00:14:15] us and said, that's my story.
Now why are each of the rest of you here? It was one of those
[00:14:19] Alicia: like, [00:14:20] well, why are you here? I don't know. I got called. Why are you here? It's one of those funny things you would see in a [00:14:25] movie. And then we all like shared and we're like, we need a curriculum. I was like, I'm working on a curriculum. Oh, we [00:14:30]need, you're, you have that in your story.
Why? Why are we all at this table? And it was such a serendipitous [00:14:35] moment that God had. Put that on her heart to help women in different ways. And what [00:14:40] I was doing at springboard with teen challenge and your story and then [00:14:45] her heart for mothers and it just all. Came together that night. [00:14:50]
[00:14:50] Denisha: Yeah. And their ministry with you Tucson is thriving right now as they're [00:14:55] mentoring new moms.
So it's pretty amazing. Alicia, we have [00:15:00] such a fun history together. We have giggled and laughed in the last, I don't know, [00:15:05] 13 years. I think that we've known each other so much. What does God [00:15:10] have you doing now with your passions? It's still breathing
[00:15:13] Alicia: into paper bags, but [00:15:15] I always, I am a biblical counselor at a teen [00:15:20] challenges springboard home for teenage girls.
And so case manager and [00:15:25] counselor for our students while also making a curriculum for our [00:15:30] counseling department and for inner healing and counseling with the girls, [00:15:35]walking them through trauma as well as group counseling, family counseling [00:15:40] and staff training and development. So only a few things. You
[00:15:43] Denisha: just have a few hats that you wear.[00:15:45]
I don't even think you and I knew trauma informed or healing from trauma. We didn't even [00:15:50]know that back in 2019 and God kind of took us different directions [00:15:55] but learning the same things and then brought us back together and it was like, wait a second, you know [00:16:00] about this? Wait, I just read that book.
It's just been so neat to watch how God has worked behind the [00:16:05] scenes and just keeping us on such a parallel path with different ages. I love that you [00:16:10] love teenage girls. I love that for you. They're
[00:16:14] Alicia: amazing [00:16:15] and challenging, but they're incredible watching their perspectives of, of [00:16:20] Jesus change. And I just had a student graduate, came to us from juvie, [00:16:25] just so much anger and pain.
And then she got baptized on Sunday, and her family was [00:16:30] there, and she graduated the program and went back home, and watching what God [00:16:35] can do in hurting and broken lives and put those pieces back together is [00:16:40] so humbling. That's
[00:16:41] Denisha: amazing. Well, Alicia, thanks for being with us [00:16:45] today. And we definitely had a God story as this ministry launched [00:16:50] and another God story led me to Nancy Nelson.
Nancy, [00:16:55] we worked together for 10 years on staff. That's right. Tell me some more about [00:17:00] your work history prior to Reclaim Story.
[00:17:02] Nancy: Okay. Well, as you mentioned, [00:17:05] I worked at a large church when it was all said and done for 28 years. [00:17:10] I was an event planner, a project planner, [00:17:15]coordinator, that kind of thing, assistant to the executive pastor.
[00:17:19] Denisha: Nancy, you were [00:17:20] very known for Knowing all the details to things. I [00:17:25] try. I remember when I felt the Lord telling me, and we worked in different [00:17:30]departments, although once in a while, we'd overlap for different projects, and I remember [00:17:35]feeling the Lord's nudge to tell Nancy about Reclaim Story. And [00:17:40] at that point it was basically a blog.
It was what Alicia and I had started as a blog. [00:17:45] And I remember sitting in my office and thinking, Lord, I don't have a five [00:17:50] year plan. I don't have an Excel sheet to document everything. I'm not going to [00:17:55] Nancy Nelson yet. And then a couple of weeks later, our mutual [00:18:00] friend Kelly came by my office. She popped her head in for just a split second and she said, [00:18:05] Denisha, I feel like you're supposed to tell Nancy about Reclaim Story.
And Kelly knew [00:18:10] because we're good friends. And I remember thinking before I lose my nerve, this has to be [00:18:15] confirmation. I got it from my desk, walked to your office and I said, let's have [00:18:20] lunch.
[00:18:20] Nancy: And I said, sounds good.
[00:18:22] Denisha: Yep. Now, did you have any idea what I was going [00:18:25] to tell you when we went to lunch that day?
Not
[00:18:27] Nancy: at all. You told me it wasn't work related, [00:18:30] but besides that, I had no idea.
[00:18:32] Denisha: Yep. And that was in 2019. Yeah. [00:18:35] Wow. I remember us really connecting over. this particular [00:18:40] ministry. Yeah. What were you feeling? Yeah.
[00:18:42] Nancy: Well, what you didn't know prior to [00:18:45] lunch was that God had been speaking to me for some time that my [00:18:50] time at the church was coming to a close and I like to be busy.
I like to be [00:18:55] doing things and he hadn't told me what I was going to do. And I didn't know yet just [00:19:00] that I was going to be doing something different. So when you started describing this [00:19:05] idea for a ministry to me, I knew in the moment, this is the next thing that [00:19:10]God has for me.
[00:19:12] Denisha: And it was what 17 months.
I think we just [00:19:15] calculated later. When you retired, how did retirement go for you,
[00:19:19] Nancy: Nancy? [00:19:20] Retirement was interesting. My last day in the office was a Thursday. [00:19:25] And so my first day of retirement was a Friday. And the very next day, Saturday, you had [00:19:30] me at a conference for Reclaim Stories. So I got to be retired for one day.
One
[00:19:34] Denisha: [00:19:35] whole day. One whole day. That's right. When you know somebody is amazing, you don't give them time [00:19:40] to rethink.
[00:19:41] Nancy: Is that what that
[00:19:42] Denisha: was? It was. We were about [00:19:45] to go on an adventure together. We were one that we did had no idea where [00:19:50] exactly we would be now. Right. This many years later on our fifth anniversary.
Nancy, you are the [00:19:55] glue that holds so much together around here. I remember back [00:20:00] when we very first came together, we held this massive garage sale that took up. [00:20:05]My house and two of my neighbor's houses you guys
[00:20:09] Nancy: didn't you kind of get in [00:20:10] trouble with your homeowners association? Yes Yeah, okay. We won't
[00:20:13] Denisha: talk about that.
Yes, they paid me a [00:20:15] visit during the garage sale to say hello. We'll leave it there Okay, enough said it was [00:20:20] very large We had 52 families contribute to that garage sale And [00:20:25] it was through that garage sale that we raised our first kind of chunk of money to be able [00:20:30] to do the website mm hmm and I know you and I had so much experience [00:20:35]designing a website,
[00:20:35] Nancy: right?
Oh, yes. I had done lots of websites prior to that. [00:20:40] Not. Chuckle chuckle. Yes.
[00:20:41] Denisha: Chuckle chuckle. We both. Neither one of us had any idea what we're [00:20:45]doing. And we're so glad the website is built and it's beautiful. It is. It is. And we're so [00:20:50] glad there's other people that know way more about websites than we do.
Correct. And also [00:20:55] that now we don't have to have garage sales. So we are very thankful for our donors that [00:21:00] support us every month to keep this ministry going. Yes, we are. So Nancy, you [00:21:05] have watched this ministry go from a blog to a very fast paced ministry. [00:21:10]Yes. What types of things do you do for Reclaim Story?
[00:21:14] Nancy: Well, there's [00:21:15] bookkeeping. I hadn't ever done that before either. You and I do a lot of strategic [00:21:20] planning. I try to advise you as best I can on legal things, when we [00:21:25] need to have real legal advice, risk management, operational [00:21:30] systems. is one of my big ones. Inventory management for the jewelry. For example, what kind of [00:21:35] system do we use to keep track of all of that?
How do we make sure that someone [00:21:40] we bring on board as a volunteer has been thoroughly vetted? What does that [00:21:45] look like for Reclaim Story? Donor development. How do we communicate with our [00:21:50] donors? What the ministry is doing? What our achievements are? What our vision for the future [00:21:55] is?
[00:21:55] Denisha: And as I said, you are the glue that holds us all together.
[00:22:00] We love systems around here. That's for sure. Nancy, I know that not only your [00:22:05]talents are with this ministry, but also your heart. Yeah. What is your hope for the women that we [00:22:10] serve?
[00:22:11] Nancy: Oh boy. Well, we all hope [00:22:15] that Reclaim Story, the community. Here at Reclaim Story [00:22:20] will be an environment that is conducive to healing.
We have women who come [00:22:25] to us who need healing. I would hope that the women would be able to [00:22:30] really face their past in a safe environment. Perhaps they've never been able [00:22:35] to do that before and that they would be able to experience true [00:22:40] restoration. You hear a lot in the world about overcoming. [00:22:45] overcome obstacles or some politician or some [00:22:50] prominent person who's overcome a lot of obstacles to be where they are.
We don't really think about [00:22:55] overcoming here. Overcoming is kind of defeating or overpowering [00:23:00] an opponent, and we don't look at our And we want people to [00:23:05]reclaim their story, to allow God to reclaim their story, for their [00:23:10] suffering to take its proper place in their story, and come to a [00:23:15] place of healing.
And that they would be ready to grow their faith, [00:23:20] that God would grow their faith, they'd allow him to increase their godly character, [00:23:25] that they'd increase their compassion, and ultimately turn that [00:23:30] to a willingness to come alongside another woman who has suffered [00:23:35] and needs a safe place for healing.
[00:23:37] Denisha: I know one of the things that you and I have talked [00:23:40] about is that even if a woman is two weeks into her journey, that we can always turn [00:23:45] around and reach back to someone who's on day one.
Right, right. Or if you're years ahead in your [00:23:50] journey, there's always a way to turn back and help others. Right. Out of all the things that [00:23:55] you do with Reclaim Story, Nancy, and your heart behind it, what is your favorite [00:24:00] component of Reclaim Story that you
[00:24:02] Nancy: do? Oh, my favorite. Well, that would be not [00:24:05] bookkeeping.
You know, [00:24:10] it might be the jewelry. At first, I have to admit, I didn't really [00:24:15]understand the jewelry. It seemed like a lot of work and [00:24:20] I don't know, it just wasn't, I didn't quite get the vision for the jewelry. But as [00:24:25] I have grown to understand that part of our ministry and how much it [00:24:30] inspires people, it inspires them to share with others as well as [00:24:35] encouraging their own journey, I've become quite fond of our merchandise line.
I [00:24:40] love that. I
[00:24:40] Denisha: wish you could go back and tell Nancy two years ago that this is where you
[00:24:44] Nancy: would arrive. [00:24:45] Someday you're going to like the jewelry, that's right. And I own a lot of the jewelry myself [00:24:50] now. Yes.
[00:24:51] Denisha: Oh, well, some of the fun things that we've gotten to do through this [00:24:55]ministry is we've also gotten to travel together.
Yes. And I have to tell you [00:25:00] guys, I knew Nancy for 10 years and I had no idea how funny she was. [00:25:05] So. You have an incredible sense of humor. We've had some fun on the road [00:25:10] together too at different speaking engagements and conferences together. Yes, we have. [00:25:15] Well, Nancy, I thank you so much for being the executive assistant to this ministry, [00:25:20] for volunteering your time, your talents, and your passion, because it really makes a difference [00:25:25] around here.
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