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Behind-the-Scenes of A New Song ~ Susan Habegger Ep. 105

July 03, 2023 Denisha Season 3 Episode 105
Behind-the-Scenes of A New Song ~ Susan Habegger Ep. 105
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Living the Reclaimed Life
Behind-the-Scenes of A New Song ~ Susan Habegger Ep. 105
Jul 03, 2023 Season 3 Episode 105
Denisha

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Join me for a casual, fun, behind-the-scenes conversation with Susan Habegger of Thrive Life Skills. Registration is open for our online and in-person Life groups utilizing Susan’s A New Song course. You can register HERE for A New Song Life Group.

You can find Susan online at https://thrivelifeskills.com
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You can also email Susan at susanh@thrivelifeskills.org

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Show Notes Transcript

Send us a Text Message.

Join me for a casual, fun, behind-the-scenes conversation with Susan Habegger of Thrive Life Skills. Registration is open for our online and in-person Life groups utilizing Susan’s A New Song course. You can register HERE for A New Song Life Group.

You can find Susan online at https://thrivelifeskills.com
Be sure to follow her on
Facebook
You can also email Susan at susanh@thrivelifeskills.org

Here are two FREE Ebooks for you!
1. Shame Off You: 10 steps to shattering shame in your life,
HERE.
2. ABC's:
CLICK HERE for a FREE E-book to help you combat lies and replace them with God's truth. For more encouragement, check out some of our offerings at www.reclaimedstory.com

Did you know we have a jewelry line that speaks to your identity in Jesus?
CLICK HERE to shop. Every purchase helps support our mission to provide healing and hope to women worldwide.

Would you partner with us to spread the message of hope and healing? You can
DONATE HERE. Living the Reclaimed Life is a Reclaimed Story, Inc. podcast, An Arizona non-profit corporation.

If you would like to connect with a safe group of women doing real-life together, join our private Facebook page,
“Living the Reclaimed Life” or on Facebook or Instagram

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Denisha: [00:00:00] Our last podcast, we got to know a little about Susan Habegger [00:00:05] story and how God led her to use her own journey with suffering and [00:00:10] trauma to write a course called a new song. If you missed it, be sure to check out [00:00:15] episode 1 0 4 where we dive into that a little bit deeper. So [00:00:20] today, Susan and I are with you again, and we're gonna have some fun.

We're gonna [00:00:25] share some of the behind the scenes stuff of our week together in Tucson, [00:00:30] Arizona. Now Susan, you live in Michigan? Yes. And there is a three [00:00:35] hour time difference between you and us. So we drag you up to Tucson and let me just say in [00:00:40] June, so it's 108 degrees here. And we got to spend six days [00:00:45] together.

And I can tell you that my heart is so full hearing how [00:00:50] those days impacted the women that God brought to us. And we have such an [00:00:55] anticipation of what God is gonna do through all of it. So we have full hearts and tired [00:01:00] bodies. I think we can say yes. Now at the time of this recording, you've been home for about [00:01:05] 48 hours.

So how are you doing acclimating back into life after this [00:01:10] crazy busy trip to Arizona? I will say that 

Susan: I'm a little bit cooler and [00:01:15] I'm really happy to be with you today, even though it was so good to be together [00:01:20] personally. Now we're far apart again, but it's. Solidified that [00:01:25] friendship and that call together from God.

So yes, here in Michigan, I'm a little cooler. [00:01:30] Took a walk last night and felt very good about that. And [00:01:35] I'm recouping I've gone to sleep and woken up in the time zone and [00:01:40] so that by my standards. Is what it takes. So I'm good.[00:01:45]

Denisha: Going much farther away internationally, that's, how do you deal with the jet lag [00:01:50]piece?

This was Michigan to Arizona, but how do you deal with, when you're going much farther [00:01:55]away how does that work for you? What's right? 

Susan: This sounds very arrogant and I don't mean it that [00:02:00] way, but I just don't do jet lag. You can't. You can't pay too much attention to it [00:02:05] when you go and you need to hit the ground running.

But one thing I do is as soon as I get [00:02:10] on an airplane headed somewhere, I turn my clock to the [00:02:15] destination time and my watch. And so that helps me look down and think, oh, and [00:02:20] begin to think a little bit in that time zone, and then sleep well at night and [00:02:25] stay by the clock where I land instead of thinking about what's.

What time it is in the previous [00:02:30] place and that, that helps me grab 

Denisha: hold. That's good wisdom. That's good wisdom. I [00:02:35] think that is a very 

Marker

Denisha: just say I don't do jet lag.

Yeah. That's a very, I think that's a very [00:02:40] good self-control. No, we're just not, we're not playing that game. We're not doing it. When you came to [00:02:45] Tucson, it was so fun. I got to pick you up from the airport and you and I had lunch [00:02:50] together and it felt for me that was the very first time we've been the, from when Rhonda and [00:02:55] Jeff connected us about a year ago, that was the first time we'd actually met in [00:03:00] person.

We've done zooms. We've done. Emails and phone calls, but that was the first time that [00:03:05] we have actually met in person. And I have to say that I've felt like I've [00:03:10] known you for a lot longer than I have it.

Susan: It felt the same for me. I know that [00:03:15] Zoom helps and you get to have these conversations. However, there's nothing [00:03:20] like, seeing each other in person and having that back and forth [00:03:25] over a glass of tea or something to eat whatever you're doing.

And [00:03:30] so it was another evidence to me that it wasn't just a, an opportune [00:03:35] thing. That it was something that God brought together. Knowing our hearts and [00:03:40] our experiences and the intentions that he has 

Denisha: for us. 

Susan: [00:03:45] And so because it was him making that connection, I really believe we [00:03:50]both felt a peace and a safety.

There's a feeling of safety with certain people [00:03:55] and I think we felt that together. It was a good thing. It is 

Denisha: a good thing. Yes, it [00:04:00] definitely was. Oh I couldn't agree more with that. So let's see. Then you met up [00:04:05] with our friend Lori, who is now your friend as well. And the next morning [00:04:10] we all went to breakfast.

Now, if you listened to the last episode, you [00:04:15] will know that Rhonda and Jeff connected us. Some friends of mutual friends of ours connected [00:04:20] us across the states, and we got to go to breakfast as a team, the reclaim story [00:04:25] team, and Lori, and we were sitting at breakfast, and then I think we may have caused a [00:04:30] ruckus.

Because we'd all been texting with Rhonda saying, oh, we wish you were here [00:04:35] for this conference, and Oh, we wish you were here. And she just kept saying, oh, me too. Or, [00:04:40]didn't give us any insight. But then we found out a surprise during our [00:04:45] breakfast. 

Susan: Yes, that she was coming and that, that [00:04:50] was, it was like full circle for, to bring all the people, all the [00:04:55] players together in one place and.

I think that was [00:05:00] just a kiss on the cheek from God to say I have been seeing, I have been knowing [00:05:05] what was going to happen and how he's going to bring it together and now I'm going to let you [00:05:10] rejoice and revel in that visual because that's what we like. We like the [00:05:15] visual and hands-on. So for all of us to be in the room together for her to come was [00:05:20] just lovely.

It was wonderful. And circumstance, circumstances [00:05:25] changed to allow her to do that, and it was good. 

Denisha: That was so fun. That was so fun. We even called her [00:05:30] out at the conference. Yes. We're like, Rhonda's here from Colorado. That was really [00:05:35] fun. I'll bet. It was neat for her too. I didn't get a chance to process, but just to go, [00:05:40] wow, this is what God did with that simple act of obedience, of saying, I think [00:05:45] these two people should know each other and there's something, God's moving on here.

Susan: I think [00:05:50] so. In fact, I. I think it was in writing that I saw somebody wrote, I wonder if Rhonda [00:05:55] knows what they did when they brought these two together. [00:06:00] And so I hope in some sense she can know and Jeff can know and feel [00:06:05] that in their hearts. 

Denisha: So fun. Let's see. Then we went for, we went from lunch or [00:06:10] breakfast, I guess that morning, and then you got to go see a little bit of Arizona at Ner [00:06:15] Caverns.

How was that for you? 

Susan: That was really nice. It was it's so [00:06:20] beautiful. And I've told people, ar I've been to Arizona before, but I've not been to this [00:06:25] particular area. And there is even with all the dry [00:06:30] and the hot and the lack of some of the green that we have here in Michigan, there's just a [00:06:35] real beauty in the in all that the landscape [00:06:40] and the way.

As Nancy said to me, the way the landscape and the [00:06:45] wildlife adapts to what is taking place. And so it was [00:06:50] really beautiful. We enjoyed the caverns and a couple days later they were closed due to [00:06:55] wildfire. And so we got in at a good time.

Denisha: Oh, good timing [00:07:00] there. We knew we needed to give you an afternoon of rest and just a little bit, a little [00:07:05] tourist moment there because the next two days, while Karner [00:07:10] sounds like closed, we had you doing some pretty intense training that you [00:07:15]gifted us with.

We had 15 women come together. To [00:07:20] say, okay, we are ready to serve women with a new song. To [00:07:25] take your course, a new song, I believe there were two layers presented during those [00:07:30] days.

You, you had a little bit of rest, and then, woo, did we just, you were on a speed [00:07:35] train with us. It was so awesome, but two full days, I think it was like 15 hours. [00:07:40] Total to prepare us to be able to lead these life groups [00:07:45] that are coming out. And maybe just share a little bit about your experience of the training.

I could share a [00:07:50] ton of stuff because I had so many personal aha moments and moments where I thought, [00:07:55] oh, I can't wait to watch this unfold in the lives of the women that we [00:08:00] serve. But what was the training like for you as you just poured out so much into [00:08:05]such a short amount of time really? It 

Susan: is.

You come together with a group of women [00:08:10] and you just have this. You hope that you're going to have a connection, that you're [00:08:15] going to have a coming together and a meeting of the minds and the women that [00:08:20] you have brought together were just wonderful. They were they were ready. They [00:08:25] were Committed and already well trained in the work that they did.

But some [00:08:30] of this, these were new ideas and new thoughts or a different way of coming in a window instead of [00:08:35] the front door. And so everyone was very gracious in allowing me to [00:08:40] share and allowing us to work together. So a part of the time they were [00:08:45]considered Participants in a small group to do some of the [00:08:50] activities and learn about some of the tools that we might use on our journey.

And [00:08:55] other times they were considered the leaders of that group and how to [00:09:00]negotiate and ne navigate that whole process. And so it was a [00:09:05] really sweet time of being together and me sharing what's was on my [00:09:10] heart and. Responding and collaborating with them as well. 

Denisha: [00:09:15] One of the many things that was a takeaway for me from that [00:09:20] training was that we aren't there to fix it.

As we [00:09:25] lead these life groups coming up, we are not there to fix it for someone. [00:09:30]And I love that you empowered us to sit and just walk alongside what [00:09:35] you taught us, Susan, was such a beautiful reflection of really what I believe that the [00:09:40] Lord does. He sits with us in it. He doesn't, he's [00:09:45] fixing things.

He's doing things. He's planning behind the scenes, but we are not God. And isn't [00:09:50] that wonderful? Yes it is. Yes it is. We just get to sit, we get to sit [00:09:55] with the women and not feel. There has to be some fix. And so I think that's [00:10:00] really encouraging. If I were a woman who was considering attending a life group with these trained [00:10:05] leaders that you spent two days with, I would think, oh good.

Nobody's gonna try to [00:10:10] make a quick fix. Give me pat answers that they're just gonna be with me along the [00:10:15] journey and allow me to explore and discover what God has for me in that. And [00:10:20] I think that was a huge takeaway for many of us. I think that's 

Susan: really [00:10:25] important because it it calms the heart of the person who is in [00:10:30] the suffering and the expectations that might be put on her, and it [00:10:35] also, in many ways, calms the heart of the leader.

Because you know that [00:10:40] this is not a time when you have to, as you said, come up with all the answers. [00:10:45] We don't have all the answers. So when we try to, when we try to create [00:10:50] them, we often do very poorly and get ourselves into [00:10:55] trouble. So it's a good time to just take deep breath and sit for a while, and then [00:11:00] discover the ways forward as we

Denisha: move.

in that room as you were teaching this [00:11:05] wonderful. New thoughts, new ways of going about things, new ways of [00:11:10] looking at suffering in our stories and as we serve the women that the Lord brings [00:11:15] to us in that room. We also had three ministry [00:11:20] collaborations who have joined us for training and they're also gonna be implementing [00:11:25] a new song course within their organization under the leadership of reclaim story.[00:11:30]

And one, I know one of our gals is gonna be using it with her staff. One, [00:11:35] we're gonna be in collaboration with a local church to host our, the [00:11:40] in-person group through their church and also our good friends, which you [00:11:45] got to go visit on your way to Kaner Caverns. Intended hope [00:11:50] and that they're gonna be utilizing a new song as they serve women coming out of [00:11:55] domestic violence, circumstances.

And so there's such a cross pollination [00:12:00] of ministries going on. And did you think that was gonna be [00:12:05] somewhere the Lord was gonna take you when you sat down in 2013, 14, [00:12:10] began to put this course together? 

Susan: Oh I would say no. My thoughts [00:12:15] were not in that place at all. I think at that point in time, I was doing what God had [00:12:20] put on my heart and my mind.

And my [00:12:25] emotions were not strong enough to even think that far ahead at that point. [00:12:30] But the way I saw it as something that I was going to use, [00:12:35] and as I did that, I saw value in it. But I can second guess [00:12:40] myself and think maybe coming from my perspective, this is a good [00:12:45] thing, but what would someone else think of it?

Will they connect? Will they key together in, in [00:12:50] what I'm saying? Will this make sense and be relevant to others? And To see it [00:12:55] come together in that room of 15 with people from [00:13:00] different ministries. All looking at how to help others [00:13:05] navigate life and pain and suffering [00:13:10] to see light on their faces and see their [00:13:15] smiles of connection.

And the responses of connection. That [00:13:20] was a real highlight for me to and to hear God saying, [00:13:25] yes, Susan yes. That was a good thing. That was a highlight, and I'm very grateful that [00:13:30] he just allowed me to play a small 

Denisha: part in that. we had this two amazing days of [00:13:35] training and then it was time for a new song conference and that was where we [00:13:40] partnered.

And we just wanna say a huge thank you to Pantano Christian Church in [00:13:45] Tucson, Arizona. They have just been such amazing partners and [00:13:50] collaborators with us as a ministry, and we've just gotten to do so many fun things [00:13:55] alongside Pantano and they have just been such a gift to our Reclaimers as [00:14:00] well.

And at that night, at Pantano Friday night, so [00:14:05] we have, a few hours Friday night and Saturday morning and. [00:14:10] One of the things that got released Friday night on top of incredible [00:14:15] teaching, Susan, that you brought forth to a room of 200 women was [00:14:20] Deborah Murphy wrote a song and she said if we are gonna do a [00:14:25] new song conference, Then we're gonna need a new song.

And she [00:14:30] wrote this song from just the Lord downloaded it to her in different pieces. From the [00:14:35] melody to having the track created to the lyrics. How was that for you? Did you [00:14:40] ever think you'd have a singer songwriter making a song just for your course? [00:14:45]

Susan: No, when you wrote to me and told me that I thought, this is [00:14:50] absolutely amazing, and I do believe that God [00:14:55] gave that to her the verses, the words in, in all of it.

And [00:15:00] I think. One of the things that made that so special as well, that [00:15:05] it seemed to be a real connection for her personally. And so that's [00:15:10] why perhaps one of the reasons why God saw fit to give that to [00:15:15] her was because it was truly a gift to her. And then of [00:15:20]course, through her to us as well.

So it was, it's lovely. It's a beautiful [00:15:25] song and it is one that, Can sink into [00:15:30] your heart and you can pull up the tune again. I heard a couple of people say I was humming [00:15:35] that tune in my mind. And so it was a wonderful gift from God to [00:15:40] her and through her to us. 

Denisha: I know I had a few people ask too, where do I find [00:15:45] that?

Is it on Spotify? Where is it? And I thought it was here. So we are [00:15:50] working with Deborah Murphy to how she wants to release that. And she has given you [00:15:55] the gift of. That going, wherever this course goes, wherever the Lord takes a [00:16:00] new song, course, that song can also go with it. So we'll keep you posted guys, if we're gonna [00:16:05] do it, if she's gonna do it on Spotify or YouTube we'll keep you posted on that.

But it [00:16:10] really was such a beautiful song. we had Friday night and Saturday morning So what was [00:16:15] some of your either feedback or thoughts on that? 

Susan: It. Again, having [00:16:20] all of those women together in that room around tables [00:16:25]and we were close together, which was nice. For us all to be [00:16:30] in close proximity and to once again, know that [00:16:35] I believe, God called each one of those, drew them there, each [00:16:40]woman there.

And so to be able to look at [00:16:45] faces, to see faces and see them responding or [00:16:50]shaking their head then is a wonderful way of [00:16:55] connecting and knowing that this idea of suffering needs to be talked about and it needs to be [00:17:00] talked about in a way that That is actually touching how we're living [00:17:05] through it.

So sometimes we want to give as we've talked about, the [00:17:10] answers or the steps to get through it or how to do it [00:17:15] in a god godly way, which means sometimes a prescription of [00:17:20] how we're going to show ourselves to others. And so I think it [00:17:25] was something very it was something unique to come together and say, we're going to talk about this in a [00:17:30]way that is real, and we're going to talk about this in a way that might be raw.

[00:17:35] And so I loved being there with the women. And I [00:17:40] think there's strength in that as well for us all to say, here [00:17:45] we are. We've all suffered in some way. We are not going to compare our [00:17:50] suffering mine to yours, but we've all suffered or we are suffering and [00:17:55] in that we're coming together to find a way forward.

We're gonna do that not as [00:18:00] a victim, but with courage and peace and hope. So I think [00:18:05] even though we were talking about suffering, there was also a lot of laughter and there was [00:18:10] joy together and that was a beautiful thing to see. 

Denisha: Sure was. It sure was.[00:18:15] You have blessed Tucson and we never know the ripple effect that God is going to [00:18:20] do through what he has given you and your Yes.

To come out here to the hot [00:18:25] desert in the worst time of the year to visit. But we're so glad for your [00:18:30] courage and the hope that you've brought us in that. So what is next for you? [00:18:35] What's next on your schedule if you could share? 

Susan: Yes. Right now I am preparing [00:18:40] to leave for Ukraine in July.

I will be there for just 10 [00:18:45] days, but it will be a time of teaching and encouraging about. [00:18:50] Moving forward through, through suffering as we know they are experiencing this so [00:18:55] much. So there will be people coming from around Ukraine where I will be, is in a [00:19:00] safe area in the western side. So I will be there [00:19:05] and I'm looking forward, I'm looking forward to that.

That will be a new location. In the [00:19:10] world for me, I have not been to Eastern Europe before. So I'll do [00:19:15] that and then come back and prepare for two later trips in the year to Uganda and [00:19:20] Ethiopia. But right now I am, my sites are set on Ukraine. Oh, 

Denisha: We can't wait to [00:19:25] follow your journey and see what God has planned for them as well.

Susan: am [00:19:30] also looking forward to all the things that we are going to do together with reclaimed [00:19:35] stories. So even though I'm going to these places, there's now a new [00:19:40]thread being woven through that this was not just a one [00:19:45] time event for us to be together, but we can see the ways that God [00:19:50] is weaving our ministries together, and I look forward to that.

Denisha: Oh, so do [00:19:55] we. we sure appreciate you. I know that people might be listening and thinking, oh, I wanna know [00:20:00] more about how did this go? How is your trip to you, Ukraine? How can they find you [00:20:05] and how can they get on your newsletter?

The best way is 

Susan: to go to thrive [00:20:10] life skills.com. That's our website and there's opportunity there for [00:20:15] you to sign up to even send a message to me through the contact or just to sign [00:20:20]up for our newsletter. And you can always email me as well [00:20:25] at susan h@thrivelifeskills.org. 

Denisha: So [00:20:30] good. Here we are past this incredible week of training, of [00:20:35]conference and celebration, and registration is open [00:20:40] for a new song life group, and we're gonna have one in person and one [00:20:45] online.

And this is going through Susan's. Course a new song. So you can go [00:20:50] to our website@reclaimedstory.com and on the [00:20:55] homepage there's a big green button that says, register here for a new song life group and [00:21:00] wherever you are in the world, we would love to have you. We're so excited to be able to [00:21:05] offer our first Zoom.

Class Zoom session so that we can meet up with our [00:21:10] reclaimers that are all over and also have an in-person one in Tucson, Arizona. So we [00:21:15] wanna invite you to join the journey to singing a new song and we hope[00:21:20] that we will see you there. And also check out Susan's website and stay connected [00:21:25] with her as well.

This definitely won't be the last time you hear from Susan from [00:21:30] Reclaim story. In two weeks, we are gonna have some time where we know a lot of you didn't get to [00:21:35] make it to the conference. And so if you're in other parts of the country or the world, we wanna [00:21:40] give you an opportunity to hear some tidbits of some things that Susan shared and more on the [00:21:45]next podcast episode in two weeks.

So we'll see you there, same time, [00:21:50] same place.